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the ideal tablet for MobileSheetsPro
(07-04-2020, 12:55 AM)jeffn1 Wrote: Well if anyone gets the tablet (Evoo 13.3 Android tablet) working with with a page turner pedal, please post.  (It pretty much fits the sweet spot in terms of what I am looking for, but it I can't use my foot pedal, it is pretty much useless.)

I have the Evoo 10" and the following pedal works fine with it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HQ9...UTF8&psc=1
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(09-14-2020, 10:21 AM)jdelashmit Wrote:
(07-04-2020, 12:55 AM)jeffn1 Wrote: Well if anyone gets the tablet (Evoo 13.3 Android tablet) working with with a page turner pedal, please post.  (It pretty much fits the sweet spot in terms of what I am looking for, but it I can't use my foot pedal, it is pretty much useless.)

I have the Evoo 10" and the following pedal works fine with it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HQ9...UTF8&psc=1
 Here is a link to the tablet I have, it is the windows 10-S version but everything works great.
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(09-14-2020, 07:49 PM)jdelashmit Wrote:
(09-14-2020, 10:21 AM)jdelashmit Wrote:
(07-04-2020, 12:55 AM)jeffn1 Wrote: Well if anyone gets the tablet (Evoo 13.3 Android tablet) working with with a page turner pedal, please post.  (It pretty much fits the sweet spot in terms of what I am looking for, but it I can't use my foot pedal, it is pretty much useless.)

I have the Evoo 10" and the following pedal works fine with it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HQ9...UTF8&psc=1
 Here is a link to the tablet I have, it is the windows 10-S version but everything works great. https://www.walmart.com/ip/EVOO-10-1-Tab.../455610609
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Oh, you have a windows tablet.

So, maybe there is an issue with the Android tablet or maybe we just have not found the right settings to tweak.

Jeff


(09-14-2020, 07:51 PM)jdelashmit Wrote:
(09-14-2020, 07:49 PM)jdelashmit Wrote:
(09-14-2020, 10:21 AM)jdelashmit Wrote:
(07-04-2020, 12:55 AM)jeffn1 Wrote: Well if anyone gets the tablet (Evoo 13.3 Android tablet) working with with a page turner pedal, please post.  (It pretty much fits the sweet spot in terms of what I am looking for, but it I can't use my foot pedal, it is pretty much useless.)

I have the Evoo 10" and the following pedal works fine with it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HQ9...UTF8&psc=1
 Here is a link to the tablet I have, it is the windows 10-S version but everything works great. https://www.walmart.com/ip/EVOO-10-1-Tab.../455610609
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I have messed about with tablets of different sizes and operating systems to use on my Korg PA600, and have found a mix that works for me, maybe only me, however it is so cheap, and there are other possibilities for other users, so here is what I've settled on; 

1. 14" HP Stream laptop $140 US from Best Buy. [Win 10. this version of windows is ideal for apps like MSP because it is plug and play for all the functions you are likely to use. it's a good  app controller.] 
(This program source could be any tablet that has bluetooth & USB, however the HDMI output may be an issue for some tablets. The Sceptre does not have "Casting" ability, but other method are possible)
2. 24"  Sceptre monitor Amazon $104 US  + free HDMI cable
3. Roland UM-One usb/midi patch $15 CA
4. Page flip bluetooth pedal $149 CA

The result is a large display and the option of extra items because the laptop has 3 dedicated USB ports.
The monitor is light, less than 5 lbs, is the same width as the music stand, and has built-in speakers, ideal for mp3 playback with the display, and it has the option of audio out to the keyboard. 
I appreciate that this set-up is too bulky for most gigs, but if you spend most of your time playing at home, it works well, and is lower priced than most 10" tablets. We are snowbirds and I transport this system from Ontario to Florida & back, so I've made inexpensive but sturdy cases out of thin model maker's plywood, which is 5 or 7 plies, to protect the gear enroute. For sturdy corners I use 1/16" x 1/2" aluminum angle, and epoxy it together to make it strong.

Thinking of bands and keeping costs down, getting displays with bluetooth or casting ability could save a bundle!
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It is too bad there are not more inexpensive 12.2 or 13.3 tablets around.   

I wish RCA kept its 12.2 Pro Android in production.  They really could have marketed that for musicians.

I have several Nuvision 13.3 tablets.  Frankly, they are great and were very inexpensive (so I got back ups). 

But, looking forward, I suppose I would prefer to have a bit more build in memory and a more updated Android OS. 

I would not be surprised if something comes a long that is basically an updated Nuvision 13.3 (or RCA 12.2 Pro), with 64gb memory and an updated Android OS (for let's say $150.00 or less).

Jeff
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In our current situation, i'd like to think that smart manufacturers would be finding ways of making cheaper tablets with inter-connectivity so that schools and other communities could work remotely. it's not just bands and orchestras that need to work in coordinated groups. I taught industrial technology in a community college for 34 years and many of our classes we had students working independently on their own equipment, or training rig, because it produced betters results. Each student had to perform all the tasks and the equipment had to perform to spec afterwards. However, being able to check with others by visiting their station was invaluable. Zoom can allow lots of interactivity, yet without contact. 
Our technical needs are clouded by the desire to have a universal device, a sort of Swiss Army Knife mentality, but that increases the cost. Single purpose tools often produce better operational results. The Leapfrog pads are a typical example. 
Both my children played in school bands, and hauling around the gear was major headache, if the band room had permanent digital displays interconnected via WiFi/Bluetooth, that would have solved many problems!
A Canadian aerospace company Litton Industries, was developing a flexible, roll-up digital display 20 years ago. They had not considered the musical implications at that time, but who knows what lurks in the back-rooms of that industry?
I wish you well in your search for the ideal.

David
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I just watched Youtube Tech Guru Marques Brownlee review the Lenovo X1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noKpc8fo-R0

and I think that (or some successor) is my current dream tablet for sheets and MSP. The price though.
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(11-26-2020, 06:01 AM)BRX Wrote: I just watched Youtube Tech Guru Marques Brownlee review the Lenovo X1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noKpc8fo-R0

and I think that (or some successor) is my current dream tablet for sheets and MSP. The price though.

That would be interesting if this could run Android or Chrome OS and run on ARM processor.
Battery life sucks with power hungry Intel/Windows combination in these small portable devices.
Another cons are starting price ($2500) and country of origin.
Display is made by LG so there's some hope.
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The concept of the X1 is great, but somewhat lacking for real-world needs - at least on my part.
  • As a score display it should be about 1.5 times larger, to get something about the size of a real paper sheet. As eyes deteriorate with age this point will (at least for me) become increasingly important. In that respect I'd regard my 2 x 12.2" master/servant booklet system as lowest form factor.
  • As a writing machine the attachable keyboard is certainly nice, but lacking the haptics of a real full-size keyboard if you really use 10-finger writing with a certain throughput request.
  • I'm very interested to see how these machines cope with real, frequent touch and writing usage: After all there is a reason to arm "normal" flat displays with hardened glass surfaces and other protective means. At a price of 3000 $ I'd certainly expect the screen to live for 5+ years.
Well, we'll see ...

Cheers,
Petra
Playing classical music on a wind controller hobby-wise - and tired of carrying around tons of paper sheets.  Wink
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(11-26-2020, 05:48 PM)Petra-Kathi Wrote: The concept of the X1 is great, but somewhat lacking for real-world needs - at least on my part.
  • As a score display it should be about 1.5 times larger, to get something about the size of a real paper sheet.
Cheers,
Petra

Not sure what is your definition of the real world paper.
LG display used in this X1 Fold is 13.3 inch (4:3 aspect ratio) and A4 paper size is 14.3 inch.
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(11-26-2020, 07:56 PM)otnt Wrote: Not sure what is your definition of the real world paper.
LG display used in this X1 Fold is 13.3 inch (4:3 aspect ratio) and A4 paper size is 14.3 inch.

Oops, sorry, I should have mentioned that I consider such a folded display to be sensible only if you can display 2 pages side by side. For rendering just one page I'd see it as waayyy to expensive. You get very nice used 12"+ single page displays for less than 1/10 of the price.

Cheers,
Petra
Playing classical music on a wind controller hobby-wise - and tired of carrying around tons of paper sheets.  Wink
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