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Moving and combining elements in layers
#1
Two small (?) questions about layers - a function in Mobilesheets that I have just started fiddling with. Let's start with an example:

In a music score I have (pdf), there are original Italian lyrics and German translations. The German translations are of no interest to me, so I have covered them with white highlighter pen.  Then I have written in English lyrics on top of the highlighter.   In the layers panel, I can find the white highlighter as one element, and the handwritten English lyrics as several elements, all within one layer.

Now - If I want to erase some of the English lyrics, I also remove the white highlighter underneath, which is annoying.

Here are the questions - and suggestions that would make my process easier:

1) Is it possible to LOCK an element. If I for example could lock the white highlighter, I could delete the text on top without removing the highlighter.

2) Is it possible to COMBINE several elements into one. For some reason, the English handwritten text appear as several elements all over the page, which means I can't deal with them as one thing.

3) One way of dealing with this, could for example be to move all the English lyrics to a separate layer. I can easily create a new layer, but I don't see any way to move elements from one layer ot another. Is there? Smile
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#2
What happens if you just paint again white highlighter over the english lyrics?
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#3
Some suggestions
  1. Put the white highlighter in a separate layer (2) ? Then select which layer you are working on (I haven't tried it)
    or
  2. White out all the german translations, and export the annotated file to a pc. Reimport the file and add your lyrics as required.

There are probably other ways (e.g. use a pdf editor on your pc before importing)

Geoff
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#4
(03-30-2025, 06:15 PM)Steinsk73 Wrote: Two small (?) questions about layers - a function in Mobilesheets that I have just started fiddling with. Let's start with an example:

In a music score I have (pdf), there are original Italian lyrics and German translations. The German translations are of no interest to me, so I have covered them with white highlighter pen.  Then I have written in English lyrics on top of the highlighter.   In the layers panel, I can find the white highlighter as one element, and the handwritten English lyrics as several elements, all within one layer.

Now - If I want to erase some of the English lyrics, I also remove the white highlighter underneath, which is annoying.

Here are the questions - and suggestions that would make my process easier:

1) Is it possible to LOCK an element. If I for example could lock the white highlighter, I could delete the text on top without removing the highlighter.

2) Is it possible to COMBINE several elements into one. For some reason, the English handwritten text appear as several elements all over the page, which means I can't deal with them as one thing.

3) One way of dealing with this, could for example be to move all the English lyrics to a separate layer. I can easily create a new layer, but I don't see any way to move elements from one layer ot another. Is there? Smile

Did you open the Annotations/Toolbar/Layer menu? (English User Guide (1.1.7) p.134)

Here you can select every layer and every element.

1) Select in the Layer menu the requested Layer (tap on the layer; becomes green) and select (checkbox) element you want to delete - just this element will be deleted.
2) I don´t know.
3) Same procedure as 1) copy the requested element, then open new/other layer and paste it.

Done.

UPDATE to 2) Yes, you can select multiple elements on an layer, copy/delete.
And btw: there is a setting "combine freeform annotations", but I don´t know if this works with text.
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#5
Yes, I did open the  Annotations/Toolbar/Layer menu, and I know I can select every layer and every element. 

1)  Yes, I know I can delete only ONE element, but I wanted to know if I can LOCK an element. That is a logical question. Let's say I  for example want to erase a small part of element 1 without touching the underlaying element 2, which makes it logical to lock element 2, ai. prevent it from being edited.

2)..

3) ah, yes... That is an option! Choose an element (in the score), CUT it, choose another layer in the Layer menu and PASTE the element back into the score. I think it would have been much faster and elegant, however, if you could just drag and drop an element from one layer to another within the Layer menu.
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#6
Much of what you are asking for is planned for version 3.10.0 which is going to be focused on features related to the annotations functionality. I want to support moving annotations between layers, grouping annotations, and potentially locking annotations to prevent modification.

Mike
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#7
(03-31-2025, 04:55 AM)Zubersoft Wrote: Much of what you are asking for is planned for version 3.10.0 which is going to be focused on features related to the annotations functionality. I want to support moving annotations between layers, grouping annotations, and potentially locking annotations to prevent modification.

Mike

Absolutely brilliant  Heart  Can't wait Smile
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(03-31-2025, 04:55 AM)Zubersoft Wrote: Much of what you are asking for is planned for version 3.10.0 which is going to be focused on features related to the annotations functionality. I want to support moving annotations between layers, grouping annotations, and potentially locking annotations to prevent modification.

Mike

Hi Mike, 

Locking layers would be a really important addition IMO.  I've drawn technical diagrams with draw.io using multiple layers and it's so easy to get oneself out of sync with what your current active layer is. When using that tool,  I lock all layers I'm not actively using to avoid any inadvertent editing errors. 

In my, so far limited, use of MS and my choral singing,  I first highlight my tenor part into a layer and then I'll add a breathing layer,  a notes layer for typed conductor notes, another notes layer for taking hand written notes during rehearsals, then a practice layer for comments on items that need work/practice.

I then have a workflow where after rehearsals,  I'll formalise my handwritten scribbles into proper conductor notes,  that then allows me to have my original notes in a separate layer to my formal performance conductor notes. 

I've so far found that I accidentally add notes to the wrong layer and then trying to move them into the correct layer is a pain, as the cut/paste logic is not so intuitive and the UI not great for managing that process. 

Also sometimes trying to select an annotation that sits in a higher layer but on top of a lower layer,  is hard without first hiding the lower layer as both get selected.  I would like to lock,  for ex. the part and breathing layers so they are visible but never react to any click.

At rehearsals,  the only layer I want active is the one where i can handwrite stuff that I later go through. 

Hope this helps understand a use case.  
Antony
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